Say Hello to Sunrise Capital

It’s always nice to sit down and meet with CTAs face-to-face. It goes back to that qualitative element of due diligence in managed futures that Attain emphasizes. We’re not going to recommend a program that we can’t express faith in, and nothing can solidify (or decimate) faith in a program the way looking a manager in the eye does.

Such was the case in yesterday’s meeting with the folks from Sunrise Capital. A larger ($10 million minimum) program based in San Diego, Sunrise is no stranger to the managed futures space, with an extensive track record and attractive pedigree of staff. For us, though, the appeal is in the way they distinguish themselves from their peers. Their flagship program is, in some ways, a traditional trend following program that stems from manager Gary Davis’ and Rick Slaughter’s self-taught stylistics; in the case of Rick, since his college days. When it comes to industry reputation and reverence, they are in the Bill Eckhardt and Richard Dennis category, and were on the ground level as managed futures blossomed in the 1970’s. But that may be where the comparisons to industry stalwarts end, only because their risk management approach is so sophisticated and nuanced that it seems to put them in a category all their own.

How do we mean? As one of many examples, their approach to the traditional trend following’s “letting profits run” may seem like heresy to a subscriber to the Turtle philosophy. While a traditional trend follower looks to latch on to a trend until its end, ultimately giving up some profits at the end of the trade as their models confirm the trend is over, Sunrise manages risk utilizing profit targets and a range of other statistical techniques.  As a trend matures, their systems, using a complex interweaving of technical indicators to determine appropriate levels of aggression, will begin to scale back their positions. This approach may best be described as respect for the laws of gravity. What goes up must come down, and in acknowledgement of the violent nature of trend reversions and corrections, they would rather have less client capital at stake the higher they go. Statistically speaking, the higher they go, the more likely it is that things will go back down, and they’d rather limit the upside to some extent in order to minimize the downside on the trade.

This was really just the tip of the iceberg, and there’s a lot more we’d like to find out before we start making any recommendations, but we look forward to learning more about Sunrise and what they have to offer. That being said, it was certainly nice to look them in the eye as the strategy was explained, and thus far, we are cautiously optimistic about what we see.

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The performance data displayed herein is compiled from various sources, including BarclayHedge, and reports directly from the advisors. These performance figures should not be relied on independent of the individual advisor's disclosure document, which has important information regarding the method of calculation used, whether or not the performance includes proprietary results, and other important footnotes on the advisor's track record.

Benchmark index performance is for the constituents of that index only, and does not represent the entire universe of possible investments within that asset class. And further, that there can be limitations and biases to indices such as survivorship, self reporting, and instant history.

Managed futures accounts can subject to substantial charges for management and advisory fees. The numbers within this website include all such fees, but it may be necessary for those accounts that are subject to these charges to make substantial trading profits in the future to avoid depletion or exhaustion of their assets.

Investors interested in investing with a managed futures program (excepting those programs which are offered exclusively to qualified eligible persons as that term is defined by CFTC regulation 4.7) will be required to receive and sign off on a disclosure document in compliance with certain CFT rules The disclosure documents contains a complete description of the principal risk factors and each fee to be charged to your account by the CTA, as well as the composite performance of accounts under the CTA's management over at least the most recent five years. Investor interested in investing in any of the programs on this website are urged to carefully read these disclosure documents, including, but not limited to the performance information, before investing in any such programs.

Those investors who are qualified eligible persons as that term is defined by CFTC regulation 4.7 and interested in investing in a program exempt from having to provide a disclosure document and considered by the regulations to be sophisticated enough to understand the risks and be able to interpret the accuracy and completeness of any performance information on their own.

RCM receives a portion of the commodity brokerage commissions you pay in connection with your futures trading and/or a portion of the interest income (if any) earned on an account's assets. The listed manager may also pay RCM a portion of the fees they receive from accounts introduced to them by RCM.

See the full terms of use and risk disclaimer here.

Disclaimer
The performance data displayed herein is compiled from various sources, including BarclayHedge, and reports directly from the advisors. These performance figures should not be relied on independent of the individual advisor's disclosure document, which has important information regarding the method of calculation used, whether or not the performance includes proprietary results, and other important footnotes on the advisor's track record.

Benchmark index performance is for the constituents of that index only, and does not represent the entire universe of possible investments within that asset class. And further, that there can be limitations and biases to indices such as survivorship, self reporting, and instant history.

Managed futures accounts can subject to substantial charges for management and advisory fees. The numbers within this website include all such fees, but it may be necessary for those accounts that are subject to these charges to make substantial trading profits in the future to avoid depletion or exhaustion of their assets.

Investors interested in investing with a managed futures program (excepting those programs which are offered exclusively to qualified eligible persons as that term is defined by CFTC regulation 4.7) will be required to receive and sign off on a disclosure document in compliance with certain CFT rules The disclosure documents contains a complete description of the principal risk factors and each fee to be charged to your account by the CTA, as well as the composite performance of accounts under the CTA's management over at least the most recent five years. Investor interested in investing in any of the programs on this website are urged to carefully read these disclosure documents, including, but not limited to the performance information, before investing in any such programs.

Those investors who are qualified eligible persons as that term is defined by CFTC regulation 4.7 and interested in investing in a program exempt from having to provide a disclosure document and considered by the regulations to be sophisticated enough to understand the risks and be able to interpret the accuracy and completeness of any performance information on their own.

RCM receives a portion of the commodity brokerage commissions you pay in connection with your futures trading and/or a portion of the interest income (if any) earned on an account's assets. The listed manager may also pay RCM a portion of the fees they receive from accounts introduced to them by RCM.

See the full terms of use and risk disclaimer here.

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