Managed Futures and Stocks: Iceman and Maverick

Iceman: You two really are cowboys.

Maverick: What’s your problem, Kazanski?

Iceman: You’re everyone’s problem. That’s because every time you go up in the air, you’re unsafe. I don’t like you because you’re dangerous.

Maverick: That’s right! Ice… man. I am dangerous.

 
It’s been an incredible 4 years for the stock market, there’s no two ways about it. Since the stock market (call sign = Maverick) bottomed in March of 2009, the Dow is up nearly 121%, while managed futures (call sign = Iceman) as measured by the Newedge CTA index is down -1.4%. A beat down by any measure – and one of the reasons you don’t hear us or anyone else in the managed futures space recommending 100% allocation to managed futures. It can pay to have some stock exposure (although we prefer to get it indirectly via equity-like hedge funds).

But for all the hubbub about the Dow being at a new all time high, and the talk about how bad things have been for managed futures, the following chart deserves some attention.  You see, the Dow has had an impressive rally, no doubt. But after rallying 120% since the bottom, it still trails the Newedge CTA Index by 15% since that former high. What?

Disclaimer: past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.

Part of this is simple math. A loss of 25% requires a gain of 33% to get back to even. A 50% loss needs a gain of 100%; and a 75% loss, a gain of 300%. If you avoid the large loss (or even make money during bad periods) you don’t need the triple digit gains to get back to even. Managed futures have been flat, but they could afford to be after their great performance in 2007 and 2008 and lack of big losses during their bad periods.

It’s about being safe, and controlling your losses.

Which brings us back to Maverick and Ice Man.  We were reminded of the 80’s classic movie Top Gun when looking at this chart, because the blue line crashed and burned then came storming back just like any good Hollywood ending.  And the line about Maverick being unsafe and dangerous couldn’t be more spot on when you imagine them talking about Maverick the stock market instead of Maverick the pilot.  Change a few words in that quote and you have the makings of any bear’s core philosophy.

[It’s] everyone’s problem. That’s because every time [it] go[es] up in the air, [it’s] unsafe. I don’t like [it] because [its’] dangerous.

So, the stock market is Maverick, crashing and burning, losing a co-pilot, breaking up with the girl, then gaining it all back and saving the world. That works for some people. Managed Futures is Iceman – not doing anything flashy, but not likely to crash and burn at the first sign of trouble either. And for those who don’t know or don’t remember the ending – while Maverick may have been the “hero,” Ice Man was there in the end doing a pretty good job, too.

Crashing and burning, then coming back strong may make a good Hollywood movie; but is it really how you want your portfolio to act? We think it’s better to fly your portfolio fighter jet like Ice Man.

PS – the Nasdaq is still down -35% below its all time high 13 years ago. The Nikkei is down -68% from its high 23 yrs ago. These things don’t always snap back quickly like the Dow has. 

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  1. nice and funny quotes

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Investors interested in investing with a managed futures program (excepting those programs which are offered exclusively to qualified eligible persons as that term is defined by CFTC regulation 4.7) will be required to receive and sign off on a disclosure document in compliance with certain CFT rules The disclosure documents contains a complete description of the principal risk factors and each fee to be charged to your account by the CTA, as well as the composite performance of accounts under the CTA's management over at least the most recent five years. Investor interested in investing in any of the programs on this website are urged to carefully read these disclosure documents, including, but not limited to the performance information, before investing in any such programs.

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The Quintile Rankings and RCM Star Rankings shown here are provided for informational purposes only. RCM does not guarantee the accuracy, timeliness or completeness of this information. The ranking methodology is proprietary and the results have not been audited or verified by an independent third party. Some CTAs may employ trading programs or strategies that are riskier than others. CTAs may manage customer accounts differently than their model results shown or make different trades in actual customer accounts versus their own accounts. Different CTAs are subject to different market conditions and risks that can significantly impact actual results. RCM and its affiliates receive compensation from some of the rated CTAs. Investors should perform their own due diligence before investing with any CTA. This ranking information should not be the sole basis for any investment decision.

See the full terms of use and risk disclaimer here.

Disclaimer
The performance data displayed herein is compiled from various sources, including BarclayHedge, and reports directly from the advisors. These performance figures should not be relied on independent of the individual advisor's disclosure document, which has important information regarding the method of calculation used, whether or not the performance includes proprietary results, and other important footnotes on the advisor's track record.

The programs listed here are a sub-set of the full list of programs able to be accessed by subscribing to the database and reflect programs we currently work with and/or are more familiar with.

Benchmark index performance is for the constituents of that index only, and does not represent the entire universe of possible investments within that asset class. And further, that there can be limitations and biases to indices such as survivorship, self reporting, and instant history. Individuals cannot invest in the index itself, and actual rates of return may be significantly different and more volatile than those of the index.

Managed futures accounts can subject to substantial charges for management and advisory fees. The numbers within this website include all such fees, but it may be necessary for those accounts that are subject to these charges to make substantial trading profits in the future to avoid depletion or exhaustion of their assets.

Investors interested in investing with a managed futures program (excepting those programs which are offered exclusively to qualified eligible persons as that term is defined by CFTC regulation 4.7) will be required to receive and sign off on a disclosure document in compliance with certain CFT rules The disclosure documents contains a complete description of the principal risk factors and each fee to be charged to your account by the CTA, as well as the composite performance of accounts under the CTA's management over at least the most recent five years. Investor interested in investing in any of the programs on this website are urged to carefully read these disclosure documents, including, but not limited to the performance information, before investing in any such programs.

Those investors who are qualified eligible persons as that term is defined by CFTC regulation 4.7 and interested in investing in a program exempt from having to provide a disclosure document and considered by the regulations to be sophisticated enough to understand the risks and be able to interpret the accuracy and completeness of any performance information on their own.

RCM receives a portion of the commodity brokerage commissions you pay in connection with your futures trading and/or a portion of the interest income (if any) earned on an account's assets. The listed manager may also pay RCM a portion of the fees they receive from accounts introduced to them by RCM.

Limitations on RCM Quintile + Star Rankings

The Quintile Rankings and RCM Star Rankings shown here are provided for informational purposes only. RCM does not guarantee the accuracy, timeliness or completeness of this information. The ranking methodology is proprietary and the results have not been audited or verified by an independent third party. Some CTAs may employ trading programs or strategies that are riskier than others. CTAs may manage customer accounts differently than their model results shown or make different trades in actual customer accounts versus their own accounts. Different CTAs are subject to different market conditions and risks that can significantly impact actual results. RCM and its affiliates receive compensation from some of the rated CTAs. Investors should perform their own due diligence before investing with any CTA. This ranking information should not be the sole basis for any investment decision.

See the full terms of use and risk disclaimer here.

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